Scientific evidence for the role of muscle tightness in PN?
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:10 am
More issues with my cycling induced pudendal neuropathy! Basically, i haven't ridden a bike since May, when the numbness in my penis spread all the way to the tip. In that time, I've been trying to figure out exercise options, and have sought advice from many NHS urologists and neurologists, and also a private physio. I've had two mri scans - spinal and pelvic - which both came back normal. Until recently, I did feel that sensitivity was slightly returning. But it fluctuates... A lot.
Initially I saw the physio. She identified a very tight pelvic floor, and indicated that this would be a contributing factor to my numbness.
However, some weeks later, i had a medical consultation with a leading penile and erectile dysfunction specialist. He has performed many penile reconstruction surgeries, is head of an NHS department, and has a lectureship in a world class university, so you'd think he knows what he's talking about. He checked my pelvic tone, and said it was good; i then asked him about what the physio said — that the tight muscles would compress the nerve further. His response : “no, that's complete nonsense“. Then when I asked about exercise, he said running and standing up cycling would cause me no issues.
I also had a nerve conduction test with the neurologist. It was normal, although this doesn't really tell us anything as it only tests the intact nerve fibres. He did however say that my chance of recovery is good as it appears that only certain fibres have been damaged.
Now, with these consultations in mind, i did try running for a couple of weeks and it seemed to slightly worsen the problem. I couldn't put it down to running necessarily - it could be psychological and related to my paranoia that exercise is doing harm - but i quit running nonetheless.
Instead, I've just bought a hand bike. Now, what can possibly be wrong with that?! I'm literally lying down - no nerve compression whatsoever, and none of the jolting that you'd get from running. Harmless, surely. Just a fantastic upper body workout. And yet, after a week of strenuous hand cycling my penis is more numb than it has been in months, and I'm getting no more spontaneous erections.
This makes me think one thing : it must be a muscle tightness issue worsened by exercise that engages the core.
And yet...
A leading urological surgeon said this is nonsense
I have no symptoms of muscle tightness or numbness anywhere else in my body
I've done very little exercise compared to the 300 mile weeks I was cycling over four years without noticing significant problems.
And on top of all this, I don't think I've seen any medical journals that indicate the role of muscle tightness in pudendal neuropathy. Just saddle compression, but nothing about muscle tightness.
So, in consideration of what the expert urologist told me, is there any irrefutable scientific evidence out there that can explain my strange ongoing symptoms?
Initially I saw the physio. She identified a very tight pelvic floor, and indicated that this would be a contributing factor to my numbness.
However, some weeks later, i had a medical consultation with a leading penile and erectile dysfunction specialist. He has performed many penile reconstruction surgeries, is head of an NHS department, and has a lectureship in a world class university, so you'd think he knows what he's talking about. He checked my pelvic tone, and said it was good; i then asked him about what the physio said — that the tight muscles would compress the nerve further. His response : “no, that's complete nonsense“. Then when I asked about exercise, he said running and standing up cycling would cause me no issues.
I also had a nerve conduction test with the neurologist. It was normal, although this doesn't really tell us anything as it only tests the intact nerve fibres. He did however say that my chance of recovery is good as it appears that only certain fibres have been damaged.
Now, with these consultations in mind, i did try running for a couple of weeks and it seemed to slightly worsen the problem. I couldn't put it down to running necessarily - it could be psychological and related to my paranoia that exercise is doing harm - but i quit running nonetheless.
Instead, I've just bought a hand bike. Now, what can possibly be wrong with that?! I'm literally lying down - no nerve compression whatsoever, and none of the jolting that you'd get from running. Harmless, surely. Just a fantastic upper body workout. And yet, after a week of strenuous hand cycling my penis is more numb than it has been in months, and I'm getting no more spontaneous erections.
This makes me think one thing : it must be a muscle tightness issue worsened by exercise that engages the core.
And yet...
A leading urological surgeon said this is nonsense
I have no symptoms of muscle tightness or numbness anywhere else in my body
I've done very little exercise compared to the 300 mile weeks I was cycling over four years without noticing significant problems.
And on top of all this, I don't think I've seen any medical journals that indicate the role of muscle tightness in pudendal neuropathy. Just saddle compression, but nothing about muscle tightness.
So, in consideration of what the expert urologist told me, is there any irrefutable scientific evidence out there that can explain my strange ongoing symptoms?