Health Organization for Pudendal Education

Recently I had a phone conversation with Dr. Jarnagin about amniotic allograft injections. For anyone who is interested please go to the home page at pudendalhope.org or see the following link: http://www.pudendalhope.info/node/112/

Isn't this a he Sam injection Hibner used to do but had little success?

I don't know if it's the same product. I don't think Dr. Jarnagin uses guided imaging to inject it -- just pelvic floor landmarks to place the injection.

Violet

Jarnagin is my doctor and said this was of no value to me as it does not help muscular issues. Hibner stopped these as they were not having success with them.
I have nit heard of anyone who got much better with this.

Speak up those of you who had these injections with Jarnagin

At the time I had my injection, both Dr. Hibner and Dr. Jarnagan were using the same product. Below is the link to the thread:

http://www.pudendalhope.info/forum/view ... tic#p47465

I wonder why dr jarnagin reports so much success when dr hibner said they had little success with it?

Could be a couple of factors: 1) Phoenix was injecting at Alcock's canal targeting the nerve while Dr. Jarnagan injects multiple muscles and 2) maybe there were differences in the dose and frequency of application.

Dr. Jarnagin told me that many of the women he injected improved after just one injection but it takes 6-8 weeks before you notice any improvement. I wonder if it has anything to do with the way it is injected. My understanding from Dr. J is that he uses the old-fashioned method of finger guidance using the ischial spine as a landmark and injecting one cm. below that (done under anesthesia). From what you said, nyt, it sounds like Phoenix used image guidance. If you had a lot of scar tissue, maybe the amniotic fluid just wasn't able to surround the nerve to promote healing?

Violet

Yes, Phoenix was doing CT-guided injections. I think there are multiple factors why the injection didn't help me and I'm sure scar tissue is one of them.

jaxi123 wrote:I wonder why dr jarnagin reports so much success when dr hibner said they had little success with it?

yes i have the same thoughts of contradictions