Ilioinguinal - The radiologist that Dr. Hibner works with is now doing alcohol deinnervation of the ilioinguinal nerve. They have had good success with this.
Genitofemoral - Dr. Hibner is now doing genitofemoral neurectomies by a laprascopic approach. He was going to talk with the radiologist to see if the radiologist could do an alcohol deinnervation of the genitofemoral nerve for those who don't want surgery. He will let me know.
Ilioinguinal and genitofemoral - Dr. Hibner
Ilioinguinal and genitofemoral - Dr. Hibner
2/07 LAVH and TOT 7/07 TOT right side removed 9/07 IL, IH and GN neuropathy 11/07 PN - Dr. Howard
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
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Re: Ilioinguinal and genitofemoral - Dr. Hibner
I haven't come across this alcohol deinnervation nyt, interesting. I did google it and came up with this http://www.dr-salim.com/english/pdf/facets_syndrome.pdf but I couldn't find a date on it.
This gives people more options at least, especially if they have had good results. So this is not a diagnostic 'injection'; Is it an injection?? it is offered as a therapeutic option instead of surgery?
I read a bit about the neurectomy you mention it mentioned that the patient may have numbness as an after effect, that would suit me down to the ground with regard to my PCFN obviously the function of the nerve need to be realised
This gives people more options at least, especially if they have had good results. So this is not a diagnostic 'injection'; Is it an injection?? it is offered as a therapeutic option instead of surgery?
I read a bit about the neurectomy you mention it mentioned that the patient may have numbness as an after effect, that would suit me down to the ground with regard to my PCFN obviously the function of the nerve need to be realised
Fall 2008. Misdiagnosed with lumber spine problem. MRN June 2010 indicated pudendal entrapment at Alcocks canal. Diagnosed with complex variant piriformis syndrome with sciatic, pudendal and gluteal entrapment's by Dr Filler 2010.Guided piriformis botox injection 2011 Bristol. 2013, Nerve conduction test positive; new spinal MRI scan negative, so diagnosed for the 4th time with pelvic nerve entrapment, now recognised as Sciatic, pudendal, PFCN and cluneal nerves at piriformis level.
Re: Ilioinguinal and genitofemoral - Dr. Hibner
This is NOT a diagnostic injection. Obviously one would need a diagnostic injection first. Alcohol injections to kill a nerve use to be used along time ago and then things like neurectomies and cryoablation came along to replace it but was not an uncommon practice at one time. One would be numb in the area of innervation but some individuals in the published literature I have read report that with time the numbness resolves but that does not happen with everyone. All I know I would prefer numbness to pain.
2/07 LAVH and TOT 7/07 TOT right side removed 9/07 IL, IH and GN neuropathy 11/07 PN - Dr. Howard
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
Re: Ilioinguinal and genitofemoral - Dr. Hibner
I read somewhere (I lost the link) that the problem may be worse when the destroyed nerve regenerates and grows again. The pain can be more severe afterward.
2002 PN pain started following a fall on a wet marble floor
2004 Headache in the pelvis clinic. Diagnosed with PNE by Drs. Jerome Weiss, Stephen Mann, and Rodney Anderson
2004-2007 PT, Botox, diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Sheldon Jordan
2010 MRN and 3T MRI showing PNE. Diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Aaron Filler. 2 failed PNE surgeries.
2011-2012 Horrific PN pain.
2013 Experimented with various Mind-body modalities
3/2014 Significantly better
11/2014 Cured. No pain whatsoever since
2004 Headache in the pelvis clinic. Diagnosed with PNE by Drs. Jerome Weiss, Stephen Mann, and Rodney Anderson
2004-2007 PT, Botox, diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Sheldon Jordan
2010 MRN and 3T MRI showing PNE. Diagnosed with PNE by Dr. Aaron Filler. 2 failed PNE surgeries.
2011-2012 Horrific PN pain.
2013 Experimented with various Mind-body modalities
3/2014 Significantly better
11/2014 Cured. No pain whatsoever since
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Re: Ilioinguinal and genitofemoral - Dr. Hibner
Yes agreed nyt, numbness would always be my choice . To a small extent I do wonder if some of my extensive numbness would be replaced by pain if or when I do have surgery (still no further forward with that however)
I would imagine that if what ezer mentions does happen, there could be a repeat of the alcohol injections??
take care all,
Helen
I would imagine that if what ezer mentions does happen, there could be a repeat of the alcohol injections??
take care all,
Helen
Fall 2008. Misdiagnosed with lumber spine problem. MRN June 2010 indicated pudendal entrapment at Alcocks canal. Diagnosed with complex variant piriformis syndrome with sciatic, pudendal and gluteal entrapment's by Dr Filler 2010.Guided piriformis botox injection 2011 Bristol. 2013, Nerve conduction test positive; new spinal MRI scan negative, so diagnosed for the 4th time with pelvic nerve entrapment, now recognised as Sciatic, pudendal, PFCN and cluneal nerves at piriformis level.
Re: Ilioinguinal and genitofemoral - Dr. Hibner
I do know with cryoablations that it is not uncommon for the nerve to grow back. I have not read in the literature that the majority of individuals have increase in pain but their pain does come back. I don't know the percentages of how many individuals with cryoablations have nerve regrowth. That is the one advantage of the neurectomy is that unless you end up with a neuroma on the end of the cut nerve that is buried you don't have to worry about regrowth of the nerve. I do not know if the alcohol injections are more permanent than cryoablations as far as regeneration of the nerve.
2/07 LAVH and TOT 7/07 TOT right side removed 9/07 IL, IH and GN neuropathy 11/07 PN - Dr. Howard
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner