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Re: Insomnia

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:45 pm
by birdlife
Hi sam,
Really glad you're getting some sleep now, but still doesn't sound enough hours in one go. Valium is good in the short term, calms you down and gets you to sleep. But you need to stay asleep, and so two things might help you do that. You need to address your worries and concerns about your prolapses with your GP or your consultant. You need to deal with the pain you say is keeping you awake from hip downwards, with 'prickly' sensations. Have you tried physio for this? Because it sounds muscular to me and I have constant pricklyness from just below waist practically down to my thighs, due to very tight muscles and ligaments in the lumbar and pelvis. I initially went to a sports physio for TP massage in Hertfordshire, now i do it myself and it has helped me so much. I had two years of being unable to sleep before I tried this massage. You have enough on your plate at the moment, and I think if your mind can rest from the constant worry of what to do, and your body can rest of a night time, you'll feel so much more able to decide what's best for you PN surgery-wise. Then you can come off the valium and take, say, amitriptyline which can soothe the nerve endings and also help you sleep without being addictive.
Meanwhile, lots of hugs!
Take care,

Re: Insomnia

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:20 pm
by carolynm
Sam,
I agree with birdlife that it's still not enough hours of sleep. Could you address this with you pain dr. as well? I think Ambien would be beneficial for you, really. If you are sleep deprived it is so hard to deal with the pain. It's hard enough on a good night's sleep.

cari

Re: Insomnia

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:52 pm
by sam
Thanks for the posts birdlife and cari, I will try the TP massage to see if it will ease my symptoms. This disease is very debilitating. On a scale of 10, my pain is around 6 to 7 normally, it is also hard to convince the doctors of the pain when it is so invisible. Thanks again to this website for letting me share my thoughts.

Re: Insomnia

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:09 pm
by shawnmellis
Sam, many other things can also lead to insomnia besides pain, such as medication and certain other vitamin, or hormone deficiencies, which you can get your primary care doctor to test for all of these with one single blood test, but you have to make sure to request a, diabetes, Testosterone Test and also Vitamin D, Vitamin B, anemia, test from him, and at the least request a Comprehensive Metabolic Panel test (CMP). I have low Testosterone and I'm only 37 and insomnia is an effect of Low T. You can get low Testosterone in your 20s or 30s and not always when older. Having said that, Ambien is the best thing I ever have taken and it saved my life because I could not sleep at all and it caued fatigue and higher blood pressure and lack of sleep made my pain worse in the morning also. If you want to try a natural approach, you an get Melatonin from Walmart 5mg in a chewable form, which is what our bodies use for helping us to sleep and see if that helps or Simpy Sleep, which is an over the counter product. If none of these help, I'd strongly recommend talking to your doctor about Ambien at least temporarily until you get a bloo

Re: Insomnia

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:10 pm
by shawnmellis
Sam, many other things can also lead to insomnia besides pain, such as medication and certain other vitamin, or hormone deficiencies, which you can get your primary care doctor to test for all of these with one single blood test, but you have to make sure to request a, diabetes, Testosterone Test and also Vitamin D, Vitamin B, anemia, test from him, and at the least request a Comprehensive Metabolic Panel test (CMP). I have low Testosterone and I'm only 37 and insomnia is an effect of Low T. You can get low Testosterone in your 20s or 30s and not always when older. Having said that, Ambien is the best thing I ever have taken and it saved my life because I could not sleep at all and it caued fatigue and higher blood pressure and lack of sleep made my pain worse in the morning also. If you want to try a natural approach, you an get Melatonin from Walmart 5mg in a chewable form, which is what our bodies use for helping us to sleep and see if that helps or Simpy Sleep, which is an over the counter product. If none of these help, I'd strongly recommend talking to your doctor about Ambien at least temporarily until you get a blood test, talk with your doctor, and see if there is any other medical things hindering your sleep problem.

Re: Insomnia

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:01 pm
by Alan
Motrin PM is also a convenient way to get sleep, is not addicting and over the counter.

Re: Insomnia

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:05 pm
by sam
Thanks shawnmellis and Alan for the posts, yes I do have vitamin d deficiency, am also menopausal and the stress and pain, all these together are making me sleepless, i think. I will also try the over the counter medicine that Alan has mentioned, anything which makes us a little better is invaluable. I have started using pain patches and I find it very soothing for the back pain.

Re: Insomnia

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:08 pm
by jogom
Hi
As if the daily pain were not enough to spoil my life, the last month was terrible. I wasn´t able to sleep more than 2 hours each day. I feel like a zombie when i go to my job. I feel a kind of electrical continous current that start on my testicles, pass through my inferior pudendal and go on on its way to the brain. It´s not very painfull, but enuough to wake me up. I used to take alprazolam, 1 mg. It makes me a great depress of my cns and was very helpfull in the past for my sleep, but the electrical current never stops and wake me up at 2 am. Then, i´m not able to sleep again. I´m in big desperation, it is very hard to work with the pain, and now that makes things worst. I´m afraid to lose my job for this. I read here that someone said ambien can help, so i want to know if it´s good enough to change the xanax for the ambien, and about the side effects. I´m a male at my forteens and i have to keep on working for at last two decades. Hope someone answer this, Thanks in advanced.

Re: Insomnia

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:38 am
by lightmail
What has helped me a great deal with sleep is the old anti depreseant doxipen. I have been on it for 32 years. If you want something that works that's not adictive try this. You will sleep. 75 mg right before bedtime. I am not a doctor so check with him or her..You will have a slight groggey effect for about half an hour or so the next morning. But it wears off quickly...Robert

Re: Insomnia

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:08 am
by Violet M
Clonazepam which is related to ambien/xanax helped me sleep. It worked better than either of the other two -- possibly because it also has some anti-seizure properties. It reduced the shocks that kept me awake. Ambien also helped me fall asleep but didn't do much for the electric shocks.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000635/