Neuroprotectice Wrap - Abstract
Neuroprotectice Wrap - Abstract
I know in the past we have debated the use of Neurowrap during PN decompression surgery. This debate started due to Dr. Dellon's dislike of Neurowrap and Dr. Hibner's use of it. I know it's been a while since this subject has been discussed and I did't know if anyone was still seeking information on this subject. Recently, there was a post about a physician Dr. Parekattil in FL who treats groin pain in men (sorry, but can't remember who started the thread so please don't be upset for not naming you). I contacted him to see if they also treat women since the website focused on men. I got a response that day from Dr. Parekattil indicating they do and that they would email me information. The next day I received an email from his secretary with several of Dr. Parekattil publications/abstracts. This is one of his abstracts. This is a similar product to what Dr. Hibner uses.
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2/07 LAVH and TOT 7/07 TOT right side removed 9/07 IL, IH and GN neuropathy 11/07 PN - Dr. Howard
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
Re: Neuroprotectice Wrap - Abstract
Thanks very much for the abstract, NYT. I've often wondered about the frequency of neurowrap complications. As with any man made product; even derived from natural substances, defects are possible.
Ultra Sound in 03/08 showed severely retroverted, detaching uterus with mulitple fibroids and ovarian cysts.
Pressure and pain in lower abdomen and groin area was unspeakable and devastating.
Total lap hysterectomy in 06/08, but damage was already done.
EMG testing in NH in 04/10 - bilateral PN and Ilioinguals
3T MRI at HSS, NY in 09/10
Bilateral TG surgery with Dr. Conway on 03/29/11. Bilat ilioinguinal & iliohypogastric neurectomy 03/12. TCD surgery 04/14.
Pressure and pain in lower abdomen and groin area was unspeakable and devastating.
Total lap hysterectomy in 06/08, but damage was already done.
EMG testing in NH in 04/10 - bilateral PN and Ilioinguals
3T MRI at HSS, NY in 09/10
Bilateral TG surgery with Dr. Conway on 03/29/11. Bilat ilioinguinal & iliohypogastric neurectomy 03/12. TCD surgery 04/14.
Re: Neuroprotectice Wrap - Abstract
Hi NYT,
I started the thread and have remained in contact with. Dr. Parekattil but haven't yet gone to see him. Since the Axium neurostimulator I am trying isn't really helping, I will likely go this summer. I am at the 3 month endpoint of that clinical trial and am debating having the device removed. I cannot have any more MRIs with it inside me and the longer I wait, the more tissue will form around the implanted leads/wires.
I see Dr. Potter's MRI confirmed entrapments, I presume of both of your pudendal nerves based upon you showing having had pudendal decompression/release surgery dome on both sides by Dr. Hibner. My understanding is he always uses transgluteal approach.
What percent, if any, of pain improvement have you gotten from Hibner's surgeries?
I started the thread and have remained in contact with. Dr. Parekattil but haven't yet gone to see him. Since the Axium neurostimulator I am trying isn't really helping, I will likely go this summer. I am at the 3 month endpoint of that clinical trial and am debating having the device removed. I cannot have any more MRIs with it inside me and the longer I wait, the more tissue will form around the implanted leads/wires.
I see Dr. Potter's MRI confirmed entrapments, I presume of both of your pudendal nerves based upon you showing having had pudendal decompression/release surgery dome on both sides by Dr. Hibner. My understanding is he always uses transgluteal approach.
What percent, if any, of pain improvement have you gotten from Hibner's surgeries?
Left testicle pain since 2008. Left sciatica 2010-2012. Failed left epididectomy, orchiectomy, botox injections, nerve blocks and internal physical therapy. Genital branch of genitofemoral and perineal branch of pudendal nerve cut. L5-S1 microdiscectomy cured sciatica. Dorsal Root Ganglion nerve stimulator failed to help and was removed. I have had 4 pudendal nerve blocks, two from Dr. Poree worked for 2 hrs. The ONLY break from pain ever.
Re: Neuroprotectice Wrap - Abstract
The percent question is hard to answer. I have a couple of things that were completely gone immediately after surgery. Some things are exactly the same. One problem I had got slightly worse and one new problem. I am glad I had the surgery because the things that did get better were worth it. My sitting time is no different since the surgeries.
2/07 LAVH and TOT 7/07 TOT right side removed 9/07 IL, IH and GN neuropathy 11/07 PN - Dr. Howard
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
Re: Neuroprotectice Wrap - Abstract
Dr. Conway did use Seprafilm on my surgery in May of 2012. I just looked it up in my copy of the OR notes.
However, I had the ligaments directly scarring onto the nerve. So I cant say if it is routine for him but he has used it.
However, I had the ligaments directly scarring onto the nerve. So I cant say if it is routine for him but he has used it.
PN by sedentary job and commute
Treated for IlioInguinal pain 2008-10
PT by Dr. Conway's team | 3 PN blocks @ Elliott in Manchester USA
TIR 2010 and TG by Dr. Conway in May of 2012 uncovered nerve damage, declared surgical failure in May of 2014
PT and bed rest continues
Employer refused accommodations in 8/13, now in the disability war.
Sacrial Stimulator 9/14 by Dr. Ross Boston MA
Anesthetic pain pump trial 3/16/15 by Dr. Ross
Treated for IlioInguinal pain 2008-10
PT by Dr. Conway's team | 3 PN blocks @ Elliott in Manchester USA
TIR 2010 and TG by Dr. Conway in May of 2012 uncovered nerve damage, declared surgical failure in May of 2014
PT and bed rest continues
Employer refused accommodations in 8/13, now in the disability war.
Sacrial Stimulator 9/14 by Dr. Ross Boston MA
Anesthetic pain pump trial 3/16/15 by Dr. Ross
Re: Neuroprotectice Wrap - Abstract
Did you go see Dr. Parekattil?
I am hoping to go this summer.
I am hoping to go this summer.
Left testicle pain since 2008. Left sciatica 2010-2012. Failed left epididectomy, orchiectomy, botox injections, nerve blocks and internal physical therapy. Genital branch of genitofemoral and perineal branch of pudendal nerve cut. L5-S1 microdiscectomy cured sciatica. Dorsal Root Ganglion nerve stimulator failed to help and was removed. I have had 4 pudendal nerve blocks, two from Dr. Poree worked for 2 hrs. The ONLY break from pain ever.