Laproscopy for Endometriosis?
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Laproscopy for Endometriosis?
I was considering having this done to see if I might have endo. Has anyone ended up with a neuralgia of some sort as a result of having a camera pushed down their belly button? I dont have abdominal pain, just lower back pain. My gyno thinks you need to have abdominal pain in order to have endometriosis. Any thoughts?
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Well, it was laparascopic surgery that helped sort out endo and adhesions for me, and further laparascopic surgery that has helped sort out PN that was caused by non-laparascopic mesh surgery.
I think if you need surgery for endo, then lap is the best option. I didn't have abdo pain as such from my endo, just ferocious period pains - well, actually those are abdo pains, aren't they - I just thought I had painful periods and never thought any more about it than that. Do you find your pain is in line with your cycle?
I think if you need surgery for endo, then lap is the best option. I didn't have abdo pain as such from my endo, just ferocious period pains - well, actually those are abdo pains, aren't they - I just thought I had painful periods and never thought any more about it than that. Do you find your pain is in line with your cycle?
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I have more severe vaginal burning once I start spotting before that 1 heavy day I bleed. Its really annoying. I also burn more when im ovulating. Can anyone explain this?
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Hey, Calluna, can you please tell us more about how mesh contributed to your PN and how it was diagnosed via laparoscopy?
Thanks,
Emily B.
Thanks,
Emily B.
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Hi ANF,
The symptoms you're describing don't sound like endo.
Best regards,
Karyn
The symptoms you're describing don't sound like endo.
There are always exceptions, but lower abdominal pain, kinda like menstruation cramps - only more severe, as Culuna described, can be indicative of endo.AroraNightfire wrote:My gyno thinks you need to have abdominal pain in order to have endometriosis.
If that's the case, I'd pass on the lap procedure and get imaging done of your sacral plexus.AroraNightfire wrote:I dont have abdominal pain, just lower back pain.
Best regards,
Karyn
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Ultra Sound in 03/08 showed severely retroverted, detaching uterus with mulitple fibroids and ovarian cysts.
Pressure and pain in lower abdomen and groin area was unspeakable and devastating.
Total lap hysterectomy in 06/08, but damage was already done.
EMG testing in NH in 04/10 - bilateral PN and Ilioinguals
3T MRI at HSS, NY in 09/10
Bilateral TG surgery with Dr. Conway on 03/29/11. Bilat ilioinguinal & iliohypogastric neurectomy 03/12. TCD surgery 04/14.
Pressure and pain in lower abdomen and groin area was unspeakable and devastating.
Total lap hysterectomy in 06/08, but damage was already done.
EMG testing in NH in 04/10 - bilateral PN and Ilioinguals
3T MRI at HSS, NY in 09/10
Bilateral TG surgery with Dr. Conway on 03/29/11. Bilat ilioinguinal & iliohypogastric neurectomy 03/12. TCD surgery 04/14.
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ANF - if your lower back pain is in line with your cycle - ie you get this pain when you are menstruating - then I'd think it could be endo.
I am no expert on this but isn't endo pain because of bleeding (during menstruation) from the stray endometrial tissue which can get itself into some very strange places. For example I had endometrial tissue actually inside my gut, apparently it must have got in there when I had a ruptured appendix age 11.
No ideas about the vaginal burning during ovulation and before menstruation, wonder what that is. What does your gynae think about it?
Emily B - Briefly, I have a history of pelvic prolapse, have had numerous surgical repairs including bladder suspension and vaginal hyst. Then had lap surgery to remove adhesions which had caused a gut obstruction, this was when they discovered I had endo. No mesh used up to that point. Then I had a vault prolapse, basically nothing south of the navel was working, surgeon at my local hospital said nothing could be done, situation was too complex. Was offered second opinion, visiting surgeon from Australia said he could help me, and he did a total pelvic reconstruction using a lot of mesh. After the surgery everything was working again, which was unbelievably wonderful, but the entire pudendal distribution was numb. Feeling came back over 2-3 weeks as pain, and stayed that way. It was apparent that something had happened to the pudendal nerve during the surgery.
I have now had a lot of the mesh removed laparascopically, and at the same time a laparascopic ventral mesh rectopexy was done to prevent further prolapse.
I am no expert on this but isn't endo pain because of bleeding (during menstruation) from the stray endometrial tissue which can get itself into some very strange places. For example I had endometrial tissue actually inside my gut, apparently it must have got in there when I had a ruptured appendix age 11.
No ideas about the vaginal burning during ovulation and before menstruation, wonder what that is. What does your gynae think about it?
Emily B - Briefly, I have a history of pelvic prolapse, have had numerous surgical repairs including bladder suspension and vaginal hyst. Then had lap surgery to remove adhesions which had caused a gut obstruction, this was when they discovered I had endo. No mesh used up to that point. Then I had a vault prolapse, basically nothing south of the navel was working, surgeon at my local hospital said nothing could be done, situation was too complex. Was offered second opinion, visiting surgeon from Australia said he could help me, and he did a total pelvic reconstruction using a lot of mesh. After the surgery everything was working again, which was unbelievably wonderful, but the entire pudendal distribution was numb. Feeling came back over 2-3 weeks as pain, and stayed that way. It was apparent that something had happened to the pudendal nerve during the surgery.
I have now had a lot of the mesh removed laparascopically, and at the same time a laparascopic ventral mesh rectopexy was done to prevent further prolapse.
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I get more vaginal burning right before and during my period. Not sure why, but other PN women report the same thing. Maybe because of increased tissue inflammation?
Started with vulva itching 2/11. Diagnosed as vulvodynia and then PN in 01/12. Progressed to sitting pain and constant burning. Received 4 nerve blocks with only temporary relief, did year of pelvic PT before being diagnosed with bilateral FAI and hip labral tears 7/12. Did orthopedic PT 1.5 years. 3/13 Arthroscopic hip surgery at HSS with Dr. Kelly. Take cymbalta and lyrica daily. About 97% better than worst point thanks to combo of surgery and meds. Yay!
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I do too, but i've had a laporoscopy for endo and i DO NOT have endo.AroraNightfire wrote: I also burn more when im ovulating. Can anyone explain this?
Still get more pain during ovulation, no idea why.
Chronic Pain pudendal area for 3 years, after a hard jolt to right side.
18 months later discovered sprained/fused sacro-illiac injury. Told to 'live with it' then saw this forum October 2011 = symptoms matched. Attempting to get this investigated in the face of lack of skilled docs in New Zealand.
Been told I have IC Dec 2011
FINALLY - 3T MRI in Christchurch 5th May 2012 - Pudendal nerve block, unguided 8th June 2012 - still waiting on results and progress from these.
18 months later discovered sprained/fused sacro-illiac injury. Told to 'live with it' then saw this forum October 2011 = symptoms matched. Attempting to get this investigated in the face of lack of skilled docs in New Zealand.
Been told I have IC Dec 2011
FINALLY - 3T MRI in Christchurch 5th May 2012 - Pudendal nerve block, unguided 8th June 2012 - still waiting on results and progress from these.
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Could be inflammation irritating the ilioinguinal nerve.kia kaha wrote:Still get more pain during ovulation, no idea why.
Ultra Sound in 03/08 showed severely retroverted, detaching uterus with mulitple fibroids and ovarian cysts.
Pressure and pain in lower abdomen and groin area was unspeakable and devastating.
Total lap hysterectomy in 06/08, but damage was already done.
EMG testing in NH in 04/10 - bilateral PN and Ilioinguals
3T MRI at HSS, NY in 09/10
Bilateral TG surgery with Dr. Conway on 03/29/11. Bilat ilioinguinal & iliohypogastric neurectomy 03/12. TCD surgery 04/14.
Pressure and pain in lower abdomen and groin area was unspeakable and devastating.
Total lap hysterectomy in 06/08, but damage was already done.
EMG testing in NH in 04/10 - bilateral PN and Ilioinguals
3T MRI at HSS, NY in 09/10
Bilateral TG surgery with Dr. Conway on 03/29/11. Bilat ilioinguinal & iliohypogastric neurectomy 03/12. TCD surgery 04/14.
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thanks, why couldn't my gyne have told me that a few weeks ago.Karyn wrote:Could be inflammation irritating the ilioinguinal nerve.kia kaha wrote:Still get more pain during ovulation, no idea why.
He says I have illioingual nerve compression too
ffs!
Chronic Pain pudendal area for 3 years, after a hard jolt to right side.
18 months later discovered sprained/fused sacro-illiac injury. Told to 'live with it' then saw this forum October 2011 = symptoms matched. Attempting to get this investigated in the face of lack of skilled docs in New Zealand.
Been told I have IC Dec 2011
FINALLY - 3T MRI in Christchurch 5th May 2012 - Pudendal nerve block, unguided 8th June 2012 - still waiting on results and progress from these.
18 months later discovered sprained/fused sacro-illiac injury. Told to 'live with it' then saw this forum October 2011 = symptoms matched. Attempting to get this investigated in the face of lack of skilled docs in New Zealand.
Been told I have IC Dec 2011
FINALLY - 3T MRI in Christchurch 5th May 2012 - Pudendal nerve block, unguided 8th June 2012 - still waiting on results and progress from these.