Hello,
I am a 25 yrs old male from New Delhi, India.
I have following symptoms from last 10 years :
1. continuous urinary urge (even on empty bladder or even when I have just urinated). Need to void upto 30-40 times during the day.
2. continuous sexual feeling and heaviness at back of penis(where the perineum starts) without desire,
3. penile pain and worsening of symptoms in cold temperatures and after defecating.
If penis and perineum are divided into 2 halves, then I have symptoms only in the right half and not on the left side.
3-Tesla pelvis MRI Report Summary :
"No Pyriformis syndrome
Normal obturator nerves
Normal internal pudendal nerve on left
Minimal intraligamentous compression of IPN on right by hook like sacrospinous ligament on right
Normal Alcock’s canal on either side."
I underwent following fluoroscope-guided diagnostic blocks 7 days back which my doctor here in delhi had prescribed:
a. Right-side pudendal nerve block (through perineum)
b. Iupar(??) plexus block
I noticed that the sexual arousal symptom is cured after the block but continuous urinary urge is still the same which is very bad. My doctor diagnosed me with pudendal neuralgia.
I am wondering how this continuous urinary urge will go, it will be great if somebody could give inputs.
Had clear cut diagnosis through nerve blocks
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Re: Had clear cut diagnosis through nerve blocks
It is great the nerve block has helped you with one of your symptoms. If you have urinary urge you could try pelvic floor physical therapy first. I am not sure if there is anyone that will be able to do that in Delhi. Hopefully there is.
You may have tensed up your pelvic floor in response to an aggravated nerve so hopefully physical therapy could loosen and relax the pelvic floor. This may help to reduce the urinary urge.
You may have tensed up your pelvic floor in response to an aggravated nerve so hopefully physical therapy could loosen and relax the pelvic floor. This may help to reduce the urinary urge.
Tried numerous medications as well as a long period of myofascial physical therapy combined with meditation/relaxation. My pelvic floor muscles are now normal and relaxed on exam ( confirmed by many Pelvic floor PTs) yet my pain remains the same. Also have intense leg pain. Deciding on next treatment.
Re: Had clear cut diagnosis through nerve blocks
Was the urgency gone immediately after the block or did it return after the block wore off? If you can't find a PT in Delhi that can help you with internal work you could try a massage therapist. Even though the massage therapist can't work on the pelvic floor maybe working on the legs and butt would help any tense muscles in those areas. There are a couple of books that you could purchase to do your own internal work: "Heal Pelvic Pain" and "Headache in the Pelvis."
2/07 LAVH and TOT 7/07 TOT right side removed 9/07 IL, IH and GN neuropathy 11/07 PN - Dr. Howard
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
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Re: Had clear cut diagnosis through nerve blocks
Thank you for taking time out and replying.
Yes, there is tightness in the pelvis due to 10 yrs of PN which may be causing the urinary urge. But I tend to believe that if there was no urinary urge, there would have been no tightness. I urinate 40+ times per day, even on empty bladder and bcoz of the stress of having to hold the urinary feeling, I have developed permanent head tightness in the last 2 years which is very very depressing and I had to quit my job due to these symptoms.
I dont want to take any psychic medicine as mind pills make me even worse, but I desperately want to get rid of this head tightness.
Yes, there is tightness in the pelvis due to 10 yrs of PN which may be causing the urinary urge. But I tend to believe that if there was no urinary urge, there would have been no tightness. I urinate 40+ times per day, even on empty bladder and bcoz of the stress of having to hold the urinary feeling, I have developed permanent head tightness in the last 2 years which is very very depressing and I had to quit my job due to these symptoms.
I dont want to take any psychic medicine as mind pills make me even worse, but I desperately want to get rid of this head tightness.
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Re: Had clear cut diagnosis through nerve blocks
I think the urinary urge was there after the block, I was too tense to notice the immediate effects. Its been 7 days since the block, thankfully sexual hyper-arousal hasn't returned though the urinary urge is still the same.nyt wrote:Was the urgency gone immediately after the block or did it return after the block wore off?
Re: Had clear cut diagnosis through nerve blocks
You are very lucky the nerve block has taken away the sexual arousal feeling. There are people who develop the sexual arousal feeling as a result of nerve blocks but for you it has been the opposite and that is good.
I had the urinary symptoms you are describing and the sexual arousal feeling. Neither were helped by nerve blocks or PT but both are mostly cured from surgery so that may be something you want to consider if nothing else helps -- although I'm sure you are aware there are no guarantees with surgery either.
Who are the doctors in India who are treating you? I wonder if they would like to have their names listed on the website in case future patients from India are searching for physicians.
Take care,
Violet
I had the urinary symptoms you are describing and the sexual arousal feeling. Neither were helped by nerve blocks or PT but both are mostly cured from surgery so that may be something you want to consider if nothing else helps -- although I'm sure you are aware there are no guarantees with surgery either.
Who are the doctors in India who are treating you? I wonder if they would like to have their names listed on the website in case future patients from India are searching for physicians.
Take care,
Violet
PNE since 2002. Started from weightlifting. PNE surgery from Dr. Bautrant, Oct 2004. Pain now is usually a 0 and I can sit for hours on certain chairs. No longer take medication for PNE. Can work full time and do "The Firm" exercise program. 99% cured from PGAD. PNE surgery was right for me but it might not be for you. Do your research.
Re: Had clear cut diagnosis through nerve blocks
Hi my name is mahzi and I live in Kolkata I also suffer from PNE problems. I would like to know where you had youe 3tesla MRI done in delhi as i would like to get it done as well.